After dedicating years researching chimpanzee actions, Jane Goodall became a specialist on the combative nature of alpha males. In a newly published interview recorded shortly before her death, the renowned primatologist shared her unconventional solution for addressing particular figures she viewed as displaying similar characteristics: launching them on a permanent journey into space.
This remarkable perspective into Goodall's mindset emerges from the Netflix documentary "Famous Last Words", which was filmed in March and kept private until after her latest passing at the age of 91.
"I've encountered people I don't like, and I want to send them on a spacecraft and send them all off to the planet he's sure he'll find," commented Goodall during her interview with Brad Falchuk.
When asked whether Elon Musk, famous for his controversial gestures and associations, would be among them, Goodall replied affirmatively.
"Yes, definitely. He would be the host. You can imagine who I'd put on that vessel. Along with Musk would be Donald Trump and various Trump's dedicated followers," she stated.
"And then I would put the Russian president among them, and I would put China's leader. Without question I would add Benjamin Netanyahu in there and his political allies. Send them all on that spacecraft and send them off."
This was not the earlier occasion that Goodall, an advocate of conservation efforts, had voiced concerns about the political figure in particular.
In a earlier conversation, she had remarked that he exhibited "similar type of behavior as a dominant primate will show when vying for dominance with a rival. They're upright, they parade, they portray themselves as really more large and combative than they may actually be in order to frighten their opponents."
During her final interview, Goodall expanded upon her comprehension of dominant individuals.
"We get, notably, two categories of dominant individual. One does it through pure aggression, and since they're powerful and they combat, they don't endure very long. Others do it by employing intelligence, like an aspiring leader will only challenge a higher ranking one if his friend, typically a relative, is alongside him. And as we've seen, they endure much, much longer," she clarified.
The famous researcher also studied the "social dimension" of actions, and what her detailed observations had taught her about combative conduct shown by human communities and primates when confronted with something they perceived as threatening, despite the fact that no risk actually existed.
"Chimpanzees observe an unfamiliar individual from an adjacent group, and they get all excited, and their hair erect, and they extend and touch another, and they display visages of rage and terror, and it catches, and the remaining members adopt that emotion that a single individual has had, and the entire group grows aggressive," she explained.
"It transmits easily," she noted. "Various exhibitions that become hostile, it spreads among them. Everyone desires to get involved and grow hostile. They're guarding their domain or fighting for dominance."
When inquired if she considered similar behaviors were present in people, Goodall replied: "Likely, sometimes yes. But I truly believe that most people are good."
"My biggest hope is nurturing future generations of caring individuals, roots and shoots. But are we allowing enough time? I'm uncertain. We face challenging circumstances."
Goodall, originally from London shortly before the beginning of the World War II, likened the battle with the difficulties of present day politics to the UK resisting Nazi Germany, and the "unyielding attitude" exhibited by Winston Churchill.
"This doesn't imply you won't experience times of despair, but eventually you emerge and state, 'OK, I refuse to permit their victory'," she remarked.
"It resembles Churchill in the war, his iconic words, we will oppose them at the coastlines, we will resist them through the avenues and the cities, afterward he commented to a companion and allegedly commented, 'and we'll fight them using the fragments of broken bottles as that's the only thing we've bloody well got'."
In her final address, Goodall offered words of encouragement for those fighting against governmental suppression and the environmental crisis.
"At present, when the world is challenging, there still is optimism. Don't lose hope. Should optimism fade, you turn into apathetic and remain inactive," she counseled.
"And if you want to preserve the existing splendor in this world – if you want to save the planet for the future generations, future family, later generations – then consider the choices you implement each day. Since, multiplied countless, innumerable instances, minor decisions will create significant transformation."
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